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Why
 
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* <del>Produce high quality standard OpenBIM output (models) instead of relying on a proprietary formats.</del>
 
* <del>Produce high quality standard OpenBIM output (models) instead of relying on a proprietary formats.</del>
* Encourage high quality OpenBIM output based on open standards rather than relying on a proprietary formats.
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* Enable Produce of high quality OpenBIM output based on open standards rather than relying on a proprietary formats.
 
* Minimize data loss when integrating with other software
 
* Minimize data loss when integrating with other software
 
* Maximize use of standard locations, providing ease of analysis and discovery.
 
* Maximize use of standard locations, providing ease of analysis and discovery.
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Based on Copy from [[https://blenderbim.org/why-provide-openbim-model.html|Blenderbim Why provide openbim model]]
 
Based on Copy from [[https://blenderbim.org/why-provide-openbim-model.html|Blenderbim Why provide openbim model]]
 
= Promoting Standards =
 
Promoting standards for interoperability is absolutely the way to go.
 
 
Standards however are never worth anything without user adoption them. Would like to propose revitalizing  STEP as a standard for storage and transfer of 2d geometry.
 
 
= Chat from Monthly Meetup Jan 9th =
 
lukas
 
started or already done?
 
 
21:06 pjanck
 
What if the IFC file defines the color/material of the entity in question, e.g. an instance of IfcWall?
 
What is the licence of IFC.js?
 
 
21:31
 
duncan
 
MIT
 
https://wiki.osarch.org/index.php?title=AEC_Free_Software_directory#OpenBIM_Management
 
 
21:32
 
Rafael(bitacovir)
 
👏 👏 👏
 
 
21:43
 
pMB
 
Good! Bravo!
 
 
21:43
 
Bruno Postle
 
Thanks, a great presentation. IFC supports CSG objects, Boolean subtraction, complex lofting and extrusions, do you support all of this?
 
 
21:47
 
lukas alberts
 
how far away would be BCF support?
 
 
21:48
 
Rafael(bitacovir)
 
Do you plan to develop more open source software for BIM / AEC industry?
 
 
21:50
 
Ayo (DADA_universe)
 
Any specific choice for going with Three.Js? Do you see a similar implementation with Babylon.Js being done along similar lines to what you've done?
 
 
21:50
 
lukas alberts
 
CAPMO (Munich) would need it.
 
 
21:57
 
pjanck
 
ifcopenshell & xBIM both provide a geometry viewer, I think
 
 
22:02
 
Cyril
 
ifcopenshell can convert to many format
 
 
22:02
 
duncan
 
https://view.ifcopenshell.org/
 
 
22:02
 
Thomas
 
Good job guys!
 
 
22:04
 
duncan
 
https://wiki.osarch.org/index.php?title=Monthly_Meetup
 
https://git.mintello.com/EPFL/bimetat/wiki
 
 
22:06
 
lukas alberts
 
conformity checking to local regulations?
 
 
22:07
 
Ryan Schultz
 
https://github.com/ENAC-CNPA/BIMxBEM
 
i think
 
 
22:10
 
Cyril
 
@Ryan yes exactly
 
 
22:16
 
lukas alberts
 
we have colors from the homepage?
 
 
22:18
 
Cyril
 
the color and the letter lol
 
 
22:18
 
pjanck
 
Thank you guys for an informative session. Will join you next month! Good night from Europe!
 
 
22:19
 
duncan
 
bye :_)
 
 
22:20
 
lukas alberts
 
so, hurry..
 
 
22:22
 
Ryan Schultz
 
does turning off streaming video help with improving audio?
 
 
22:32
 
andrea
 
maybe add some features inside IFC.js similar to Graphisoft's BIMx? with the possibility to link a 3d model to the project sheet.
 
 
22:42
 
pls do
 
 
22:44
 
Xavier Sanchez
 
yes
 
 
22:44
 
Bruno Postle
 
yes go ahead
 
 
22:44
 
iosvarms
 
yes interested
 
 
22:44
 
Cyril
 
All the components that together make Blender are compatible under the newer GNU GPL Version 3. That is also the license to use for any distribution of Blender binaries.
 
https://www.blender.org/about/license/
 
 
22:47
 
Jesusbill
 
Dion you can stop sharing 😃
 
 
22:53
 
Cyril
 
dwg trueview 774 Mio… Autodesk…
 
 
22:55
 
Moult
 
https://opencollective.com/opensourcebim
 
 
22:59
 
iosvarms
 
I think decentralization is the way to go with regards to funding. people will donate to a product they like.
 
osarch supports/promotes multiple product. it makes it difficult to manage if funds come into osarch.
 
 
23:03
 
is there anything to be learned from
 
https://www.blender.org/foundation/
 
 
23:06
 
Moult
 
peter it's a little tricky since blender has a very straightforward product to support - whereas osarch is kinda like an network
 
 
23:08
 
lukas alberts
 
good night, keep healthy
 
 
23:09
 
Xavier Sanchez
 
Thank you!
 
 
23:09
 
Bruno Postle
 
thanks all
 
 
23:09
 
apemann
 
thanks all
 
 
23:10
 
pMB
 
hi and thx for all
 
 
23:10
 
richie
 
Thanks for the presentation.
 
Thanks all.
 
 
23:10
 
iosvarms
 
bye
 
 
23:10
 
Jesusbill
 
great thanks
 
 
23:10
 
😃
 
Type a message
 
 
= Chat from Monthly Meetup December 5th =
 
Cyril
 
Hi there
 
20:59
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
hi
 
20:59
 
Andrew Peel
 
Hello
 
20:59
 
G-Tchahba
 
Hello everyone
 
21:01
 
Sam Romeo
 
Was Fluid Designer Based on Blender?
 
21:08
 
Cyril
 
I am almost sure that the answer is yes :
 
https://blender-addons.org/fluid-designer/
 
 
But let Andrew answer
 
 
21:09
 
arquiguru
 
Ceilings would be great too!
 
Wow, love this
 
 
21:25
 
jamesjky
 
Hey Andrew, is there a 3d to 2d drawings feature in the pipeline? I thought I saw something like that on your youtube channel
 
 
21:26
 
G-Tchahba
 
Can we able to use Archipack Pro with PyClone?
 
 
21:29
 
arquiguru
 
That's great! Looks so simple also
 
 
21:33
 
Carlo
 
Really impressive
 
 
21:33
 
arquiguru
 
Where do you want to go with this? What are the next "assets"?
 
 
21:39
 
Sam Romeo
 
Can you have a BlenderBim Tab in Your Assembly Dialogue?
 
 
21:40
 
arquiguru
 
You have walls. Are you going to implement beams, slabs and columns?
 
 
21:40
 
G-Tchahba
 
Is there a 3d animation and 3D printing( Architecturale) feature in your roadmap?
 
 
21:41
 
arquiguru
 
❤️
 
This looks kind of similar to how Archicad works. I love it
 
 
21:42
 
G-Tchahba
 
Thank you for answers. 👍
 
 
21:42
 
Bas Gutwein "Baswein"
 
Amazing setup! Do you have any sense of the timeline for when Blender will implement the asset manager?
 
 
21:43
 
arquiguru
 
Linking scenes sounds good
 
 
21:44
 
Sam Romeo
 
Like an xref?
 
 
21:44
 
arquiguru
 
This is optimized for Eevee and Cycles, am I right?
 
 
21:45
 
jamesjky
 
hard question but good answer! 😄
 
 
21:46
 
arquiguru
 
Check out Archicad objects!
 
 
21:47
 
Bruno Postle
 
Kitchen cabinets have some standard sizes, but everything else is manufacturer-specific - do you plan to support particular manufacturers?
 
 
21:50
 
Carlo
 
I was going to ask the same Bruno
 
 
21:52
 
Meetlat
 
There is a addon that automaticly change level of detailhttps://devtalk.blender.org/t/level-of-detail-addon/12840
 
 
21:52
 
G-Tchahba
 
How to setup (draw) curved wall,door and window?
 
 
21:52
 
Meetlat
 
Types instead of instances
 
 
21:53
 
DADA_universe (Ayo)
 
I think the Blender Asset Manager is already available in Blender 2.92 Alpha. I did see a video about it.
 
 
21:54
 
Bas Gutwein "Baswein"
 
I think that the question was not so much concerned with poly count but rather too much detail that makes it seem like the design decisions have already been made. So maybe a blank style that shows only the space it takes and some other simple features.
 
 
21:55
 
Sam Romeo
 
Andrew,
 
Congratulation,  as an end-user (a Builder) you make your program very usable and easy to understand, while still having the flexibility to have very advanced Parameters and Properties  customization  available and easily accessible
 
 
21:55
 
arquiguru
 
What about dynamic components. Opening, closing doors and cabinets. Is it possible?
 
😃
 
 
21:59
 
Meetlat
 
That looks simple!
 
 
22:07
 
Cyril
 
Thank you very much for the presentation Andrew !
 
 
22:09
 
Andrew Peel
 
Thank you!
 
 
22:09
 
LaurensJN
 
Thank you Andrew for the really nice demonstration!
 
 
22:09
 
Meetlat
 
Thanks for the presentation
 
 
22:09
 
Bas Gutwein "Baswein"
 
Thanks Andrew very exciting!
 
 
22:09
 
Andrew Peel
 
Thanks!
 
 
22:10
 
Carlo
 
Thanks, very inspiring presentation!
 
 
22:10
 
jamesjky
 
i second Ryan
 
 
22:11
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
I also agree
 
 
22:11
 
Cyril
 
👍
 
 
22:11
 
Sam Romeo
 
No Probs
 
 
22:12
 
Bas Gutwein "Baswein"
 
recording is fine for me
 
 
22:12
 
lukas alberts
 
everybody can join anonymously
 
 
22:13
 
jamesjky
 
👍
 
 
22:13
 
arquiguru
 
The Twich sessions each Monday!
 
 
22:16
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
yes  👍
 
 
22:16
 
Sam Romeo
 
Sorry I am new where are the Designs?
 
 
22:21
 
Moult
 
https://community.osarch.org/discussion/310/hunt-for-the-new-osarch-org-logo#latest
 
osarch.org
 
footer has a link to the social media
 
https://twitter.com/OSArchOrg
 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/osarch-org-121505200/
 
 
22:23
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
https://www.linkedin.com/company/osarch-org
 
 
22:23
 
Moult
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoP6n8DdDajAM8YYDdFpQMQ
 
 
22:23
 
Cyril
 
live streaming will be available soon on Peertube
 
 
22:23
 
arquiguru
 
Sorry, I think you can share publications with a Company Page
 
I'm looking at this
 
 
22:25
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
you can make posts but you cannot look at the posts of others and share them (I think)
 
 
22:27
 
Moult
 
footer link updated and now links to the company linkedi n page
 
 
22:27
 
arquiguru
 
You can share other people´s posts with a linkedin ¨company page¨. Just like Facebook, you find a cool post, click ¨Share¨ then select your company profile from a dropdown, and share the post as a company
 
 
22:30
 
Cyril
 
https://en.liberapay.com/about/teams
 
 
22:30
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
oh ok sounds great I didn't know that 😃
 
 
22:31
 
arquiguru
 
look, Ioannis
 
https://imgur.com/a/FQ1PiEV
 
 
22:32
 
Cyril
 
Example of share in FreeCAD :
 
https://en.liberapay.com/FreeCAD/income/
 
 
22:32
 
Duncan
 
@Cyril yes, teams thanks
 
 
22:33
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
yes yes I also tried it. Thanks. You are absolutely right
 
 
22:33
 
Moult
 
https://forum.librecad.org/New-sponsorship-and-partnership-for-LibreCAD-in-Brazil-td5718298.html
 
 
22:37
 
Bas Gutwein "Baswein"
 
QGIS does a grant funding program- they collect funds over the year and then people put in proposals
 
https://blog.qgis.org/2020/07/10/qgis-grant-programme-2020-results/
 
 
22:37
 
jamesjky
 
hahaha
 
liked that one Dion
 
 
22:41
 
Moult
 
😄
 
like a charity navigator 😃
 
 
22:43
 
iosvarms
 
I think OSArch should focus on specific apps/products/addo-ns/software
 
 
22:43
 
jamesjky
 
but that would destroy the irony! 😦
 
 
22:43
 
iosvarms
 
there has to be a way  to streamline how funding is sourced. Many options and not been focused would make things difficult imo
 
22:46
 
arquiguru
 
Yeah, 2D is like low commitment open source. It's hard to migrate to FreeCAD or BlenderBIM but everyone is looking for Autocad alternatives because some barely use it
 
 
22:47
 
DADA_universe (Ayo)
 
We probably should build a system where OSArch developers / apps could register their projects on a dashboard that could function as a leaderboard of sorts where projects get ranked through a weighted system (involving votes from members, external validation, etc.......needs to be figured out) funds collected through LibrePay for examplle can be disbursed out quarterly based on this dashboard and the dashboard can serve other purposes as well.
 
 
22:48
 
arquiguru
 
CYPE just released a free software to make 2d floorplans from IFC files btw
 
 
22:48
 
Moult
 
arquiguru - nice...link?
 
 
22:49
 
arquiguru
 
Let me look it up
 
http://open-bim-layout.cype.es/
 
Recently they also released Cype Architecture for free
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqff1cFb0ak&ab_channel=CYPEInternational
 
 
22:51
 
iosvarms
 
exactly @ducan. very correct
 
 
22:52
 
Cyril
 
@arquiguru free as in free beer but not freedom
 
 
22:53
 
arquiguru
 
Yeah sorry I forgot to add that
 
 
22:53
 
Duncan
 
@isovarms exactly what?
 
 
22:53
 
iosvarms
 
@duncan the funders may want to donate to engineering (structural, MEP) and not architecture
 
 
22:55
 
Duncan
 
ah, okay
 
 
22:55
 
arquiguru
 
Or maybe Osarch can work as an ¨accelerator¨
 
 
22:55
 
lukas alberts
 
the open-source money has to go to open-source projects. the universities have that money. how can OSarch participate, without being an institution. Dion needs to be professor 😃
 
 
22:56
 
iosvarms
 
there are many alternatives (FLOSS)  for architects, but few for engineering and quantity surveying
 
 
22:56
 
Bas Gutwein "Baswein"
 
Here is an axample of a croudfunding campaign
 
lutraconsulting.co.uk/crowdfunding/pointcloud-qgis/
 
 
22:57
 
DADA_universe (Ayo)
 
@arquiguru OSArch as an accelerator, now that's  a thought!
 
 
22:58
 
Cyril
 
👍
 
 
22:59
 
arquiguru
 
Yeah, my GF is CEO of a local incubator/accelerator for startups and I'm trying to think about something akin
 
OSArch as an incubator or accelarator would offer an incubation process for existing projects. They would compete for a prize/fund/grant. Pre-incubation process goes like this: business model, branding, legal stuff, and so on, and finally a pitch phase. The process ends with a Demo day, with a jury and the winner gets a prize and an incubation process where you work with mentors to further develop your project.
 
 
23:02
 
Moult
 
JanF wants to speak?
 
 
23:03
 
arquiguru
 
So Epic, Blender Foundation or whatever know they are putting their money on something real
 
 
23:03
 
Moult
 
i've got to run
 
running off now 😃 seeya later guys!
 
 
23:06
 
arquiguru
 
bye!
 
 
23:06
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
bye
 
 
23:06
 
Bas Gutwein "Baswein"
 
https://opensourcefriday.com/
 
 
23:06
 
Duncan
 
a "Corporate Pledge"
 
 
23:08
 
jamesjky
 
Hey thanks for the great talk about your project Andrew, and the discussion everzon
 
gotta run, bye!
 
 
23:09
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
bye
 
 
23:10
 
arquiguru
 
MyAnonamouse has that banner thing 😄
 
 
23:13
 
iosvarms
 
hahaha
 
 
23:14
 
arquiguru
 
Bye!
 
 
23:15
 
iosvarms
 
bye
 
 
23:15
 
Bruno Postle
 
bye
 
 
23:15
 
Bas Gutwein "Baswein"
 
thanks!
 
 
23:15
 
lukas alberts
 
bye
 
 
23:15
 
arquiguru
 
Thanks Andrew!!! Great work!!!
 
Andrew, what's your twitter handle?
 
Wasnt me
 
😄
 
 
23:16
 
Will do
 
23:16
 
😃
 
Type a message
 
 
= Chat from Monthly Meetup November 7th =
 
iosvarms
 
Hello everyone
 
20:58
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
Hi
 
 
21:00
 
Cyril
 
Hi there
 
 
21:00
 
Laurens Oostwegel
 
Hi
 
 
21:01
 
Cyril
 
Three vertical dots bottom right to change your name
 
 
21:02
 
Xavier Sanchez
 
Hello
 
 
21:02
 
Moult
 
does bim360's and aconex's viewer also do server side rendering?
 
 
21:41
 
Xavier Sanchez
 
It's like Home Assistant. I'm already running at my house. Very nice to learn a lot.
 
 
21:55
 
Thomas Kumlehn (Germany)
 
@maximilian please tell your it pals at htw that visiting your project site is tricky, because of a missing or bad SSL certificate
 
 
21:57
 
RWA108
 
is the recording being restarted
 
 
22:06
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
yes for some reason it stopped by itself
 
 
22:07
 
RWA108
 
👍
 
 
22:07
 
arquiguru
 
Maybe a "Getting Started" section. Get Involved doesn't quite explains it
 
 
22:15
 
iosvarms
 
I think the "How to" principle for naming is the way to go.
 
 
22:17
 
arquiguru
 
That's more user centered, yes. Basics of UX Design: what questions they are asking, what challenges are they facing, what would be a win for the user? (How to...)
 
 
22:18
 
Xavier Sanchez
 
I just discovered the wiki. Very interesting information there.
 
 
22:21
 
Duncan
 
Here's an example of the Cameleon skin for mediawiki:
 
https://secret-wiki.de/wiki/Hauptseite
 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Chameleon
 
 
22:22
 
arquiguru
 
Regarding Stackoverflow web design, there's a site that uses the same format (voting system, etc) and focuses on BIM (mostly Revit though), it's called
 
upclash.com
 
(spanish only). Justf FYI. I don't know if this is any better than a forum format
 
 
22:24
 
Moult
 
making a list since i'm forgetting: 1) reskin wiki with colours and funky graphics! 2) use "how to" terminology to rename articles, 3) create new workflow category, 4) new page about introductory /generic FOSS tools like libreoffice
 
please reach out to any academic institution you have connections to, and point them to OSArch - we can see how we can collaborate
 
 
22:26
 
Duncan
 
@Moult we have a workflow category
 
https://wiki.osarch.org/index.php?title=Category:Workflow_Example
 
 
22:26
 
Moult
 
nice! didn't see that
 
 
22:26
 
Duncan
 
list of categories:
 
https://wiki.osarch.org/index.php?title=Category:Categories
 
 
22:26
 
Moult
 
btw blenderbim/freecad now being introduced in Achen University (sp?)
 
i sent out an email to bond university (first bim course in australia) yesterday
 
i sent one to sydney university about half a year ago and was ignored 😃
 
 
22:28
 
arquiguru
 
@Moult what's the "speech" when reaching out academic institutions?
 
 
22:28
 
Moult
 
@arquiguru i didn't have one, since I had contacts at both, so it was casual 😃
 
 
22:29
 
iosvarms
 
you need to have some sort of relationship to get academics to listen to things like that 😃
 
 
22:30
 
arquiguru
 
I'm asking because I used to teach at our national faculty and I have reach too. They are fans of QGis but then also encourage the use of Rhino and stay away from Blender for some reason (maybe they don't know it)
 
 
22:30
 
Cyril
 
Can you write done the name of the platform you talk about Duncan ?
 
 
22:31
 
Moult
 
EdX
 
 
22:31
 
Duncan
 
edX & Moodle
 
 
22:32
 
Cyril
 
Thanks
 
 
22:32
 
Duncan
 
https://open.edx.org/
 
 
22:32
 
arquiguru
 
About academia: I've been eyeing this for a while. I think this is the sort of things that are essential to conquer academia
 
https://cgcookie.com/articles/introducing-the-cg-cookie-blender-curriculum
 
 
22:35
 
Moult
 
@arquiguru that's a great link! Please post it in the forum thread so we don't lose track
 
 
22:36
 
Ioannis @Jesusbill
 
very nice really
 
 
22:37
 
arquiguru
 
I completed the form but never received the curriculum so I'm not sure but I think stuff like this is essential to "sell" OSArch to Universities. I will post it in the forum
 
 
22:38
 
Moult
 
hehehehe "the less markety the website, the more i trust the foss" 😃 that's my rule of thumb
 
 
22:38
 
Duncan
 
😄
 
 
22:40
 
Maybe a BlenderBim Meetup is overdue?
 
 
22:42
 
Duncan
 
here's the page on Matrix:
 
https://app.element.io/#/room/#freenode_##architect:matrix.org
 
 
22:43
 
Moult
 
https://blenderbim.org/community.html
 
http://webchat.freenode.net/##architect
 
agree! 😃
 
is somebody keeping notes of the conclusions from thi smeeting? there's very good ideas and i hope we don't forge tthem!
 
 
22:46
 
😃
 
Type a message
 
 
arquiguru
 
what happened in june wow
 
and what happened in oct 4
 
Yes. Go openbim. Go opensource
 
😄
 
  
 
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