OSArch Mission Statement
IMHO Workflow centrist rather than software centrist.
Produce high quality standard OpenBIM output (models) instead of relying on a proprietary formats.
- Encourage high quality OpenBIM output based on open standards rather than relying on a proprietary formats.
- Minimize data loss when integrating with other software
- Maximize use of standard locations, providing ease of analysis and discovery.
- Integrate a multitude of specialised tools into the design and engineering process, rather than being limited to a single platform, resulting in better design, using the right tool for the job, and more flexibility of contracts.
- Reuse the model to minimise investigative works, or minimise risk during refurbishments. Just as building works expect CAD plans of existing buildings, we will expect OpenBIM models of existing buildings in the future.
- Verify building performance data, such as environmental and architectural design intentions, with the original intents recorded in the BIM model, and perform in-house big data analytics on BIM data which otherwise wouldn't be possible with proprietary BIM.
- Continue to use your BIM data well into the future with no vendor lock-in, no expensive licensing or subscripion fees, and with complete flexibility of your company's digital pipeline.
Based on Copy from [Why provide openbim model]
Promoting standards for interoperability is absolutely the way to go.
Standards however are never worth anything without user adoption them. Would like to propose revitalizing STEP as a standard for storage and transfer of 2d geometry.
Chat from Monthly Meetup Jan 9th
lukas started or already done?
21:06 pjanck What if the IFC file defines the color/material of the entity in question, e.g. an instance of IfcWall? What is the licence of IFC.js?
21:32 Rafael(bitacovir) 👏 👏 👏
21:43 pMB Good! Bravo!
21:43 Bruno Postle Thanks, a great presentation. IFC supports CSG objects, Boolean subtraction, complex lofting and extrusions, do you support all of this?
21:47 lukas alberts how far away would be BCF support?
21:48 Rafael(bitacovir) Do you plan to develop more open source software for BIM / AEC industry?
21:50 Ayo (DADA_universe) Any specific choice for going with Three.Js? Do you see a similar implementation with Babylon.Js being done along similar lines to what you've done?
21:50 lukas alberts CAPMO (Munich) would need it.
21:57 pjanck ifcopenshell & xBIM both provide a geometry viewer, I think
22:02 Cyril ifcopenshell can convert to many format
22:02 duncan https://view.ifcopenshell.org/
22:02 Thomas Good job guys!
22:06 lukas alberts conformity checking to local regulations?
22:07 Ryan Schultz https://github.com/ENAC-CNPA/BIMxBEM i think
22:10 Cyril @Ryan yes exactly
22:16 lukas alberts we have colors from the homepage?
22:18 Cyril the color and the letter lol
22:18 pjanck Thank you guys for an informative session. Will join you next month! Good night from Europe!
22:19 duncan bye :_)
22:20 lukas alberts so, hurry..
22:22 Ryan Schultz does turning off streaming video help with improving audio?
22:32 andrea maybe add some features inside IFC.js similar to Graphisoft's BIMx? with the possibility to link a 3d model to the project sheet.
22:42 pls do
22:44 Xavier Sanchez yes
22:44 Bruno Postle yes go ahead
22:44 iosvarms yes interested
22:44 Cyril All the components that together make Blender are compatible under the newer GNU GPL Version 3. That is also the license to use for any distribution of Blender binaries. https://www.blender.org/about/license/
22:47 Jesusbill Dion you can stop sharing 😃
22:53 Cyril dwg trueview 774 Mio… Autodesk…
22:55 Moult https://opencollective.com/opensourcebim
22:59 iosvarms I think decentralization is the way to go with regards to funding. people will donate to a product they like. osarch supports/promotes multiple product. it makes it difficult to manage if funds come into osarch.
23:03 is there anything to be learned from https://www.blender.org/foundation/
23:06 Moult peter it's a little tricky since blender has a very straightforward product to support - whereas osarch is kinda like an network
23:08 lukas alberts good night, keep healthy
23:09 Xavier Sanchez Thank you!
23:09 Bruno Postle thanks all
23:09 apemann thanks all
23:10 pMB hi and thx for all
23:10 richie Thanks for the presentation. Thanks all.
23:10 iosvarms bye
23:10 Jesusbill great thanks
23:10 😃 Type a message
Chat from Monthly Meetup December 5th
Cyril Hi there 20:59 Ioannis @Jesusbill hi 20:59 Andrew Peel Hello 20:59 G-Tchahba Hello everyone 21:01 Sam Romeo Was Fluid Designer Based on Blender? 21:08 Cyril I am almost sure that the answer is yes : https://blender-addons.org/fluid-designer/
But let Andrew answer
21:09 arquiguru Ceilings would be great too! Wow, love this
21:25 jamesjky Hey Andrew, is there a 3d to 2d drawings feature in the pipeline? I thought I saw something like that on your youtube channel
21:26 G-Tchahba Can we able to use Archipack Pro with PyClone?
21:29 arquiguru That's great! Looks so simple also
21:33 Carlo Really impressive
21:33 arquiguru Where do you want to go with this? What are the next "assets"?
21:39 Sam Romeo Can you have a BlenderBim Tab in Your Assembly Dialogue?
21:40 arquiguru You have walls. Are you going to implement beams, slabs and columns?
21:40 G-Tchahba Is there a 3d animation and 3D printing( Architecturale) feature in your roadmap?
21:41 arquiguru ❤️ This looks kind of similar to how Archicad works. I love it
21:42 G-Tchahba Thank you for answers. 👍
21:42 Bas Gutwein "Baswein" Amazing setup! Do you have any sense of the timeline for when Blender will implement the asset manager?
21:43 arquiguru Linking scenes sounds good
21:44 Sam Romeo Like an xref?
21:44 arquiguru This is optimized for Eevee and Cycles, am I right?
21:45 jamesjky hard question but good answer! 😄
21:46 arquiguru Check out Archicad objects!
21:47 Bruno Postle Kitchen cabinets have some standard sizes, but everything else is manufacturer-specific - do you plan to support particular manufacturers?
21:50 Carlo I was going to ask the same Bruno
21:52 Meetlat There is a addon that automaticly change level of detailhttps://devtalk.blender.org/t/level-of-detail-addon/12840
21:52 G-Tchahba How to setup (draw) curved wall,door and window?
21:52 Meetlat Types instead of instances
21:53 DADA_universe (Ayo) I think the Blender Asset Manager is already available in Blender 2.92 Alpha. I did see a video about it.
21:54 Bas Gutwein "Baswein" I think that the question was not so much concerned with poly count but rather too much detail that makes it seem like the design decisions have already been made. So maybe a blank style that shows only the space it takes and some other simple features.
21:55 Sam Romeo Andrew, Congratulation, as an end-user (a Builder) you make your program very usable and easy to understand, while still having the flexibility to have very advanced Parameters and Properties customization available and easily accessible
21:55 arquiguru What about dynamic components. Opening, closing doors and cabinets. Is it possible? 😃
21:59 Meetlat That looks simple!
22:07 Cyril Thank you very much for the presentation Andrew !
22:09 Andrew Peel Thank you!
22:09 LaurensJN Thank you Andrew for the really nice demonstration!
22:09 Meetlat Thanks for the presentation
22:09 Bas Gutwein "Baswein" Thanks Andrew very exciting!
22:09 Andrew Peel Thanks!
22:10 Carlo Thanks, very inspiring presentation!
22:10 jamesjky i second Ryan
22:11 Ioannis @Jesusbill I also agree
22:11 Cyril 👍
22:11 Sam Romeo No Probs
22:12 Bas Gutwein "Baswein" recording is fine for me
22:12 lukas alberts everybody can join anonymously
22:13 jamesjky 👍
22:13 arquiguru The Twich sessions each Monday!
22:16 Ioannis @Jesusbill yes 👍
22:16 Sam Romeo Sorry I am new where are the Designs?
22:21 Moult https://community.osarch.org/discussion/310/hunt-for-the-new-osarch-org-logo#latest osarch.org
footer has a link to the social media
22:23 Ioannis @Jesusbill https://www.linkedin.com/company/osarch-org
22:23 Cyril live streaming will be available soon on Peertube
22:23 arquiguru Sorry, I think you can share publications with a Company Page I'm looking at this
22:25 Ioannis @Jesusbill you can make posts but you cannot look at the posts of others and share them (I think)
22:27 Moult footer link updated and now links to the company linkedi n page
22:27 arquiguru You can share other people´s posts with a linkedin ¨company page¨. Just like Facebook, you find a cool post, click ¨Share¨ then select your company profile from a dropdown, and share the post as a company
22:30 Cyril https://en.liberapay.com/about/teams
22:30 Ioannis @Jesusbill oh ok sounds great I didn't know that 😃
22:31 arquiguru look, Ioannis https://imgur.com/a/FQ1PiEV
22:32 Cyril Example of share in FreeCAD : https://en.liberapay.com/FreeCAD/income/
22:32 Duncan @Cyril yes, teams thanks
22:33 Ioannis @Jesusbill yes yes I also tried it. Thanks. You are absolutely right
22:37 Bas Gutwein "Baswein" QGIS does a grant funding program- they collect funds over the year and then people put in proposals https://blog.qgis.org/2020/07/10/qgis-grant-programme-2020-results/
22:37 jamesjky hahaha liked that one Dion
22:41 Moult 😄 like a charity navigator 😃
22:43 iosvarms I think OSArch should focus on specific apps/products/addo-ns/software
22:43 jamesjky but that would destroy the irony! 😦
22:43 iosvarms there has to be a way to streamline how funding is sourced. Many options and not been focused would make things difficult imo 22:46 arquiguru Yeah, 2D is like low commitment open source. It's hard to migrate to FreeCAD or BlenderBIM but everyone is looking for Autocad alternatives because some barely use it
22:47 DADA_universe (Ayo) We probably should build a system where OSArch developers / apps could register their projects on a dashboard that could function as a leaderboard of sorts where projects get ranked through a weighted system (involving votes from members, external validation, etc.......needs to be figured out) funds collected through LibrePay for examplle can be disbursed out quarterly based on this dashboard and the dashboard can serve other purposes as well.
22:48 arquiguru CYPE just released a free software to make 2d floorplans from IFC files btw
22:48 Moult arquiguru - nice...link?
22:49 arquiguru Let me look it up http://open-bim-layout.cype.es/ Recently they also released Cype Architecture for free https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqff1cFb0ak&ab_channel=CYPEInternational
22:51 iosvarms exactly @ducan. very correct
22:52 Cyril @arquiguru free as in free beer but not freedom
22:53 arquiguru Yeah sorry I forgot to add that
22:53 Duncan @isovarms exactly what?
22:53 iosvarms @duncan the funders may want to donate to engineering (structural, MEP) and not architecture
22:55 Duncan ah, okay
22:55 arquiguru Or maybe Osarch can work as an ¨accelerator¨
22:55 lukas alberts the open-source money has to go to open-source projects. the universities have that money. how can OSarch participate, without being an institution. Dion needs to be professor 😃
22:56 iosvarms there are many alternatives (FLOSS) for architects, but few for engineering and quantity surveying
22:56 Bas Gutwein "Baswein" Here is an axample of a croudfunding campaign lutraconsulting.co.uk/crowdfunding/pointcloud-qgis/
22:57 DADA_universe (Ayo) @arquiguru OSArch as an accelerator, now that's a thought!
22:58 Cyril 👍
22:59 arquiguru Yeah, my GF is CEO of a local incubator/accelerator for startups and I'm trying to think about something akin OSArch as an incubator or accelarator would offer an incubation process for existing projects. They would compete for a prize/fund/grant. Pre-incubation process goes like this: business model, branding, legal stuff, and so on, and finally a pitch phase. The process ends with a Demo day, with a jury and the winner gets a prize and an incubation process where you work with mentors to further develop your project.
23:02 Moult JanF wants to speak?
23:03 arquiguru So Epic, Blender Foundation or whatever know they are putting their money on something real
23:03 Moult i've got to run running off now 😃 seeya later guys!
23:06 arquiguru bye!
23:06 Ioannis @Jesusbill bye
23:06 Bas Gutwein "Baswein" https://opensourcefriday.com/
23:06 Duncan a "Corporate Pledge"
23:08 jamesjky Hey thanks for the great talk about your project Andrew, and the discussion everzon gotta run, bye!
23:09 Ioannis @Jesusbill bye
23:10 arquiguru MyAnonamouse has that banner thing 😄
23:13 iosvarms hahaha
23:14 arquiguru Bye!
23:15 iosvarms bye
23:15 Bruno Postle bye
23:15 Bas Gutwein "Baswein" thanks!
23:15 lukas alberts bye
23:15 arquiguru Thanks Andrew!!! Great work!!! Andrew, what's your twitter handle? Wasnt me 😄
23:16 Will do 23:16 😃 Type a message
Chat from Monthly Meetup November 7th
iosvarms Hello everyone 20:58 Ioannis @Jesusbill Hi
21:00 Cyril Hi there
21:00 Laurens Oostwegel Hi
21:01 Cyril Three vertical dots bottom right to change your name
21:02 Xavier Sanchez Hello
21:02 Moult does bim360's and aconex's viewer also do server side rendering?
21:41 Xavier Sanchez It's like Home Assistant. I'm already running at my house. Very nice to learn a lot.
21:55 Thomas Kumlehn (Germany) @maximilian please tell your it pals at htw that visiting your project site is tricky, because of a missing or bad SSL certificate
21:57 RWA108 is the recording being restarted
22:06 Ioannis @Jesusbill yes for some reason it stopped by itself
22:07 RWA108 👍
22:07 arquiguru Maybe a "Getting Started" section. Get Involved doesn't quite explains it
22:15 iosvarms I think the "How to" principle for naming is the way to go.
22:17 arquiguru That's more user centered, yes. Basics of UX Design: what questions they are asking, what challenges are they facing, what would be a win for the user? (How to...)
22:18 Xavier Sanchez I just discovered the wiki. Very interesting information there.
22:22 arquiguru Regarding Stackoverflow web design, there's a site that uses the same format (voting system, etc) and focuses on BIM (mostly Revit though), it's called upclash.com
(spanish only). Justf FYI. I don't know if this is any better than a forum format
22:24 Moult making a list since i'm forgetting: 1) reskin wiki with colours and funky graphics! 2) use "how to" terminology to rename articles, 3) create new workflow category, 4) new page about introductory /generic FOSS tools like libreoffice please reach out to any academic institution you have connections to, and point them to OSArch - we can see how we can collaborate
22:26 Duncan @Moult we have a workflow category https://wiki.osarch.org/index.php?title=Category:Workflow_Example
22:26 Moult nice! didn't see that
22:26 Duncan list of categories: https://wiki.osarch.org/index.php?title=Category:Categories
22:26 Moult btw blenderbim/freecad now being introduced in Achen University (sp?) i sent out an email to bond university (first bim course in australia) yesterday i sent one to sydney university about half a year ago and was ignored 😃
22:28 arquiguru @Moult what's the "speech" when reaching out academic institutions?
22:28 Moult @arquiguru i didn't have one, since I had contacts at both, so it was casual 😃
22:29 iosvarms you need to have some sort of relationship to get academics to listen to things like that 😃
22:30 arquiguru I'm asking because I used to teach at our national faculty and I have reach too. They are fans of QGis but then also encourage the use of Rhino and stay away from Blender for some reason (maybe they don't know it)
22:30 Cyril Can you write done the name of the platform you talk about Duncan ?
22:31 Moult EdX
22:31 Duncan edX & Moodle
22:32 Cyril Thanks
22:32 Duncan https://open.edx.org/
22:32 arquiguru About academia: I've been eyeing this for a while. I think this is the sort of things that are essential to conquer academia https://cgcookie.com/articles/introducing-the-cg-cookie-blender-curriculum
22:35 Moult @arquiguru that's a great link! Please post it in the forum thread so we don't lose track
22:36 Ioannis @Jesusbill very nice really
22:37 arquiguru I completed the form but never received the curriculum so I'm not sure but I think stuff like this is essential to "sell" OSArch to Universities. I will post it in the forum
22:38 Moult hehehehe "the less markety the website, the more i trust the foss" 😃 that's my rule of thumb
22:38 Duncan 😄
22:40 Maybe a BlenderBim Meetup is overdue?
22:42 Duncan here's the page on Matrix: https://app.element.io/#/room/#freenode_##architect:matrix.org
22:43 Moult https://blenderbim.org/community.html http://webchat.freenode.net/##architect agree! 😃 is somebody keeping notes of the conclusions from thi smeeting? there's very good ideas and i hope we don't forge tthem!
22:46 😃 Type a message
arquiguru what happened in june wow and what happened in oct 4 Yes. Go openbim. Go opensource 😄
Chat from Monthly Meetup September 5th
Duncan HI everyone! https://wiki.osarch.org/index.php?title=User_talk:JanF
21:56 Cadgiru comment to loannis, before we leave the topic
22:15 Ioannis sure
22:18 Cadgiru waiting to but in
22:19 Cyril Hi, I wasn't able to join on time.
22:28 Bruno Postle Hi I could show you a project I have been working on with Blender Sverchok
22:29 Cyril 👍 I think :
- An organisation should be setup
- This organisation should be set in a country which not fear patent trolls (not US etc…)
22:44 Cadgiru osArch banner page... The Open-Source Architecture Community brings together like-minded users and developers who share a common goal: that the built environment can be designed, constructed, operated, and recycled with (free software) Open Source, increased transparency, and a more ethical approach.
22:51 Duncan osgeo
22:58 lukas alberts we need to share the work on several shoulders.. and somewhen this will cost. we can run osarch as is..and parallely have some official organisation..which could collect fundings and take care of the back-office of osarch. start with some legal text , then one will see who adheres.
23:06 Cadgiru comment... Often find more in community page.. Think Useful information on community should be Extracted and organized in the wiki. If organized, MediaWiki should be able to cater for all these needs...
23:12 lukas alberts how much is the website.. how much is a database with search engine.. it is all about the good search engine..
23:12 Ioannis YouTube video from Dion's channel on SVG construction documentation - Work In Progress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn_x4mi77cg
23:16 Cyril These project will help to build a complete workflow :
23:19 Cadgiru @duncan 👍 Categories 👍
23:24 Duncan 👍 23:27 Cadgiru And would not having detailed examples of such workflows (detailed Tutorials) be a natural part of such a wiki...
23:29 Cyril I'll open pages for workflows for building energy modeling and HVAC. Describing theoritical workflows and fill actual workflow over time.
23:29 Cadgiru Off Topic opinion... Blender has a more creative approach than most CAD or BIM authoring Tools.. Implementing a Bim workflow in blender makes sense from this point of view.
23:32 lukas alberts orange3, dataminig tool, may help sorting categories.