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When Revit exports geometry to IFC, it may process it in a way that may lead to loss of information or inefficient data storage. Optimising geometry is highly advised to maintain quick workflows between OpenBIM and Revit.
 
When Revit exports geometry to IFC, it may process it in a way that may lead to loss of information or inefficient data storage. Optimising geometry is highly advised to maintain quick workflows between OpenBIM and Revit.
  
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==Detecting complex geometry==
 
==Detecting complex geometry==
 
Within Revit, the currently exported Element ID will be shown in the status bar on the bottom left during the export process. Watching this at export time and making a note of any Element IDs that take a particularly long time to export will help identify those with geometric issues that Revit is struggling with.
 
 
As an alternative, the [[Geometric detail MicroMVD]] may be used to audit the geometry. It checks by auditing the number of polygons physically present in the IFC definition of the geometry. This type of check is very fast, as it does not require the geometry to be computed.
 
 
Sometimes, it is also necessary to check the resultant polygon count, not just the IFC definition. This is useful if there are many parametric definitions that are computationally expensive to display. The [[BlenderBIM Add-on]] contains a "Select all high polygon meshes" operator, allowing you to select and visually inspect complex geometry. The IFC CSV tool may then be used to export these objects into a spreadsheet format.
 
  
 
==Using IFC4==
 
==Using IFC4==
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This filesize reduction occurs due to two improvements in the IFC4 data format. The first is the new tesselated shape supports, which allow a much more efficient description of meshes compared to the IFC2X3 faceted BREPs. The second is due to the improved support in Revit of exporting parametric geometry in IFC.
 
This filesize reduction occurs due to two improvements in the IFC4 data format. The first is the new tesselated shape supports, which allow a much more efficient description of meshes compared to the IFC2X3 faceted BREPs. The second is due to the improved support in Revit of exporting parametric geometry in IFC.
 
==Mitigating the Revit type duplication bug==
 
 
Revit has a bug which invisibly duplicates types unknown to the end user. For example, given a table that is symmetrical, if you mirror it in Revit, it will still show as one type in Revit. However, under the hood, Revit will invisibly create a new type that you cannot see through the Revit interface. When exported to IFC, Revit will generate two types, with two geometries: one of the original and one of the mirrored table. This doubles the size of your type.
 
 
Multiplying the size of a type is especially problematic when the type has fillets (see next section) and is already 10-30 times the size of a properly modelled mesh. Mirroring along one axis will double your type filesize. Mirroring along two axes will quadruple your filesize. If it's a door or window, placement on a hosted element with different thicknesses will also duplicate the time again, leading to a single door's geometry filesize being multiplied easily to 8 or more times, depending on how many different walls you put it in.
 
 
There is no known fix for this at the moment due to the complexity of this bug and the risk in patching vertex coordinates. More reading [https://github.com/Autodesk/revit-ifc/issues/326 here].
 
 
Though issue can be solved to some degree by [https://blenderbim.org/docs-python/autoapi/ifcpatch/recipes/MergeDuplicateTypes/index.html MergeDuplicateTypes] patch in IFC Patch, example of the executing this IFC Patch through BlenderBIM can be found [https://youtu.be/Op7PS3aM6bw?t=661 here].
 
  
 
==Reducing curves in profiles that are swept, revolved, or blended==
 
==Reducing curves in profiles that are swept, revolved, or blended==
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[[File:Revit-door-geometry-zoom.png|200px|thumb|right|A door with over 8,000 vertices]]
 
[[File:Revit-door-geometry-zoom.png|200px|thumb|right|A door with over 8,000 vertices]]
  
The [[BlenderBIM Add-on]] lets you inspect the details of how Revit generates shapes. In mesh edit mode, it is revealed that this door contains more than 8,000 vertices. Zooming into the door frame reveals the strange meshing artifacts that Revit has generated. You will notice that the artifacts do not occur in simple extrusions, such as in the door leaf.
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The [[BlenderBIM Add-on]] lets you inspect the details of how Revit generates shapes. In mesh edit mode, it is revealed that this door contains more than 8,000 vertices. Zooming into the door frame reveals the strange meshing artifacts that Revit has generated.
 
 
It is not currently possible to modify the number of facets created in a curve. If it is necessary to do this, it is advised to switch to another software application.
 
  
 
==Remodeling in other software==
 
==Remodeling in other software==

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